[Chapter_Fourteen] Chapter 14

[ron stanford]

realized that might have sounded like Shakespeare championed Jay, the
bastard...not quite was i was thinking, although Shakespeare  no doubt would
have loved jay, i don't think he's actually a bastard, either literally or
figuratively...the long lost thought there was more an off-handed defense of
'non-pedigree' thinking...(really...(sic...))...

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Rachel A. Buddeberg <rachel at rabe.org> wrote:

> Not quite sure what protocols you might have breeched...  I found your
> question intriguing because I've wondered about that myself.  It seems that
> not everyone might become a successful farmer... Given our knowledge of
> where markets can lead - at least the unregulated kinds - maybe exchange
> might be better.  Historically, when buyer and seller haggled directly,
> prices tended to be fairer than now when most of the money I pay for
> athletic shoes (for example) goes into the pockets of the CEO of [fill in
> your least favorite shoe company].  I can't haggle - and neither can the
> person ask for higher wages.   Of course, there remain other
> power-differentials to watch out for in 1-on-1 markets.  I am sure that the
> craftsperson didn't feel as comfortable setting a price for a
> nobleperson...
>
> Rachel
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2010, at 12:22 AM, ron stanford wrote:
>
> not quite sure how the idea exchange here is supposed to work, but just
> diving in: (as a relative neophyte), marvelously impressed by the gravity of
> fukuoka, the look of his 'farm', the food forest concept, seed balls, etc.
> My first question v.a.v. discussion would be the macro level implications
> of.traditional property rights and markets/ exchange of 'surplus'.
> Recognizing that permaculture, (seems to me), is something, (literally), of
> a ground up' concept, (the best e.g. acquittal of Foucault i've personally
> encountered...), i wonder about the convergence of enlightened 'ground up'
> food production and the perhaps not so comfortable atrophy of top down-large
> scale production/distribution models.
> In the new model, if one is not specifically a grower, or one in possession
> of land, (maybe a dedicated painter/writer/old school doctor, etc.), is
> there the comfortable possibility of making one's 'specialized' way, without
> being a 'farmer' oneself, (and not relying on charity, strictly
> speaking...), that is, an exchange, a market, where services/goods/produce
> can be priced?
>
> have no doubt breeched any number of protocols, but...testing, testing...is
> this thing on...? ...'--)
>
> ron.
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jay <protojay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Website: onestrawrevolution.net
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